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The Better Business Bureau and my battle with weeds

Ottawa Better Business Bureau President Diane Iadeluca. (photo by Lois Siegel)

Ottawa Better Business Bureau President Diane Iadeluca. (photo by Lois Siegel)

Published on September 20, 2010
Published on September 20, 2010
Michael Prentice  RSS Feed

Have you checked the web site of the Better Business Bureau lately? If you do, it’s almost certain to make you a better consumer.

Topics :
Better Business Bureau , Ottawa BBB , Ottawa , Kanata

 

I thought I was a smart consumer until a recent unpleasant experience with a lawn maintenance company. Now that I’ve learned my lesson the hard way, I’ll check with the Better Business Bureau before giving my business to any company I know little or nothing about.

The BBB tracks the performance of 20,000 firms doing business in the Ottawa area. That’s not a misprint. Twenty thousand is the figure.

Negative information on any of these businesses shows up in a rating system devised by the BBB to help consumers avoid firms with unusually-high numbers of dissatisfied customers.

The BBB has so far rated about 10,000 of these businesses. It lacks sufficient data on the other 10,000 to give a rating. The bureau uses a formula that goes from "A+" for impeccable records in dealing with consumer complaints to a failing grade of "F" for those with numerous and serious unanswered complaints.

"The grade represents BBB’s degree of confidence that the business is operating in a trustworthy manner and will make a good faith effort to resolve any customer concerns filed with BBB," the bureau says on its web site.

The BBB cautions: "The rating is not a guarantee of a business’s reliability or performance, and readers should consider a business’s rating in addition to all other available information about the business."

Of approximately 10,000 businesses currently rated in the Ottawa area, about 16 per cent are ranked in the top category of A+. At the other end of the scale, about eight per cent received an F rating. These ratings are frequently revised.

The BBB is a group of almost 1,900 businesses in the Ottawa area that encourages its members to treat customers honestly and fairly. In looking into consumer complaints about businesses, the BBB investigates complaints against members and non-members alike.

Does the BBB take sides in such disputes? Not if it can help it.

Diane Iadeluca, Ottawa BBB president and CEO, told OBJ: "The BBB does not resolve the complaint for the company or the consumer, nor does it make a judgment as to its validity, but rather facilitates the conciliation process and encourages businesses to make good faith efforts to resolve all such complaints in accordance with generally accepted good business practices."

I thought I was a smart consumer until a recent unpleasant experience with a lawn maintenance company. Now that I’ve learned my lesson the hard way, I’ll check with the Better Business Bureau before giving my business to any company I know little or nothing about. -

Most consumers who make a formal complaint to the BBB about a business get some satisfaction, according to the bureau’s statistics.

According to BBB statistics, about two-thirds of complaints are eventually recorded as "settled.” Most of the other one-third are marked down as "complaint not settled.” In the case of these complaints, the two sides can’t, or won’t, reach a compromise. 

My recent case went down in the "complaint not settled" category. 

I had complained to the BBB about Weed Man, a lawn-care company that had treated my lawn in Kanata for the past six summers.

This year, I decided to do the job myself (partly because of tougher laws against poisonous weed killers). 

While I did not renew my annual contract, Weed Man went ahead anyway and provided a first treatment for which it billed me just over $50. I refused to pay, pointing out I had not ordered the service. The Weed Man insisted I must pay because I had been a customer for years. 

After I complained to the BBB, Weed Man verbally offered to accept half its original price. I again refused, and the BBB wrote to me saying there was nothing more it could do. Then I received another demand from Weed Man for payment in full, plus interest – which I paid, rather than risk damaging my credit record. 

Only then did it occur to me to look on the BBB’s Ottawa web site. 

There, I found that I was among 237 people that had complained to the BBB about Weed Man in the past three years. Of those 237 cases, 75 complaints (including mine, evidently) were recorded as “not resolved.”

Not only did Weed Man receive an F rating, the BBB issued this advice about the company: "The BBB would like to advise that many consumers have complained about the sales and billing practices of this company . . . Consumers have informed the BBB that regardless of many phone calls to the company requesting that the service be discontinued, the company has serviced the lawn when consumers are not present, or without a signed contract, and has continued to invoice the customer or has forwarded their account to a collection agency."

 

 

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    Sue Wang
    - October 17, 2010 at 20:49:00

    One day in July, 2010, a teenager knocked my door and said he need help to finish his reseach for his homework, if I can sign on his interview list then I can help him. He showed me a piece of paper with WEED MAN as the title on the top, there are only about ten people's name and signature, phone number on it, nothing else, no contract or any agreement! The kid looks so skinny and poor, at the beginning, I didn't want to do it, However he kept begging me.So I gave him my nick name and nick name signature. However I refuse to give him my phone number. When he kept asking me about my phone number, my husband came back from the driveway, the kid ran away. Then my nightmare started. A day after a week. I saw a bill left on my door. It said the weed man fertilized my lawn and ask me to pay their bill about $60. My family never asked any service from WEED MAN and we always do the lawn ourselves. I called the phone number on the bill, the woman named Sandra who anwsered the phone, She said sorry about the bill, and the service will be cancelled. So I thought this is the end, but it was not. Yesterday, Oct 15, 2010, I received a bill from weed man, it said I was late of paying the $60 billing. And they added $2 penatly on it. So I called WEEDMAN again, the same woman, Sandra, anwser the phone again. She was so rude and talked over me when I try to get a word in edgewise and informed me that there were no supervisors above her that I could speak to. She said I have to pay the bill, otherwise they will sale it to collection. Then she hung up the phone. When I called her again, she hung up again and again. So I said I need talk to you, if you don't want to talk it through the phone then I will go to the address on the bill and talk to the people in your company. Then she transfered me to a woman, who said she is Sandra's manager and she was so rude also and talked over me when I try to get a word too. I guess this is the conversation manner of everyone in WEEDMAN. The manager threatened I am harassement her employer, and she will call the police if I call them again! Then I didn't have any chance to say even one word, she hang up on me. How can I harasse her by not saying even one word? So what should I do? This bill has my home address and my last name. Luckily it doesn't have my offical name, and WEEDMAN don't have any other my personally information. ( I didn't offer to them, but I am not sure if they will steal it from somewhere else) If they sale my bill to collection, then does that affect my credit, since they have my home address and last name?

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      Ed Merij
      - February 7, 2012 at 22:37:12

      Weed Man says YOU are harassing THEM? No, no, no my dear, you did nothing wrong,, it's the other way around! I suggest that you send them a letter (don't phone anymore -- put everything in writing). Indicate to them that you will be contacting the police to investigate whether a charge of attempted grand larceny is to be pursued against the owners of Weed Man. Do this by a letter. Indicate also that, in your opinion, Weed Man has engaged in attempted extortion against you, and that you consider this to be a CRIMINAL OFFENCE. Meanwhile, after sending the letter, I suggest you contact the police. Tell them three things: 1) you consider the act of the teenager to get you to sign the form to be an act of attempted grand larceny -- basically Weed Man has tried to steal money from you. It doesn’t matter if Weed Man actually sprayed your lawn – since you did not request that, it has no value to you, therefore there is no quid pro quo … therefore their demand for money from you is attempted theft. 2) you consider the bill sent to you by Weed Man to be attempted extortion (do not use the term "harassment" that is too general; the words "extortion" and "grand larceny" are specific to sections of the Canadian Criminal Code, and give the police something they can act upon). 3) if Weed Man attempts to enter your property again, you WILL consider that an "act of trespass", and you will be contacting the police immediately, to have the employee and the company owner charged with trespassing.

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    Jason
    - September 21, 2010 at 21:37:11

    I have been on the business side of an attempt to resolve and was not happy with the BBB abuse of authority leaning towards consumers. They took a ploy from a consumer to use the BBB to get money back from a service call I performed on their house. I unclogged a drain and recommended replacing the system because it will simply back up again. The person phoned the BBB stating she wanted her money back because the problem wasn't fixed at which point I stated that I did indeed perform the work and ultimately was paid for said work. The BBB kept it as an 'unresolved' and downgraded my score from A+ to B... I have no faith in the BBB system and they are leaving holes for consumers to take advantage and use big brothers like this organization to get free work completed on their shotty old homes. In quite a few scenarios, the stories that are unresolved are not necessarily a firm's way of saying i am not responsible... rather they are frustrated with people complaining about paying further into a problem that is a home owner responsibility. The best way to do business is to keep a good contractor when you find one. They still exist... Cheers

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    Don Wallace
    - September 20, 2010 at 09:32:53

    I was completely dissatisfied with the BBB when I tried to file a complaint about a Stittsville company that damaged my new mini-van during some service work. The company told the BBB that I was lying and that was the end of the matter. The BBB said in such cases they don't keep the complaint on file...go figure. Apparently the BBB service works well for the member companies who pay a fee. Consumers get what they pay for.

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