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Keeping cool with copycats

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Shopify founder Tobi Lütke

Courtney Symons
Published on October 9, 2012
Published on September 28, 2012
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How CEO Tobias Lütke helped ‘improve’ a Shopify ripoff

"One thing that happens a lot is that people in Chinese companies find something they like and they make an exact copy. There’s no finesse to it, they look at the software screen-for-screen and then they essentially make a 100 per cent copy of what they see, slap a new brand on it and release it to the Chinese market.

This happened to Shopify a few times. In one interesting case, we saw that a Shopify clone (ShopQi) was available on GitHub (a social network for programmers to collaborate, where users can send a “pull” request to share software suggestions or modifications). I made a copy of the code, and then I simply went ahead and deleted every single file and jokingly sent back a pull request by saying that I had improved the code by deleting it because it was such a blatant copy. I figured people internally would find it funny. It was kind of silly, but it felt good.

Obviously (the pull request) hasn’t been accepted, but it’s still there. They can’t make it go away.

I sent some e-mails back and forth but there was a big language barrier and it didn’t go anywhere. I didn’t want anything from them – they knew they were doing something wrong.

Someone reminded me that a lot of good painters make money by making copies of famous pieces. While they can make exact copies of the pieces, that doesn’t mean they will be as good as the original artist. If they copy a Van Gogh, the next copy is not going to be Van Gogh quality. Other people could copy everything Shopify is, but it’s really a frozen-in-time copy. We make (upgrades, which means copycats don’t) tend to matter in the end."

Staying clear of the courtroom

FRISKY WHISKEY

Shopify isn’t the only company using unconventional tactics to deal with copycats.

When executives at Jack Daniel’s realized that author Patrick Wensink had used a ripoff of the whiskey company’s famous logo for the cover page of Broken Piano for President, the company took a soft approach to dealing with the copycat.

The Jack Daniel’s attorney sent a cease-and-desist letter to Mr. Wensink thanking him for his affection for the brand, but politely asking him to change his book’s cover page. The letter even went so far as to offer to pay a portion of the redesign fees.

In a blog post, Mr. Wensink said his publishing company would change the cover, but not take Jack Daniel’s up on its payment offer, suggesting the distiller’s strategy was successful.

But what would prompt a company to take such a gentle approach to a copycat in the first place?

COST

“Quite simply, intellectual property litigation is incredibly expensive,” says Adam Tracey, an associate with MBM Intellectual Property Law in Ottawa.

“You might win, but you’ll be stuck with tens of thousands of dollars in legal costs. Any award you get in a court will never cover the cost of an IP litigator.”

REPUTATION

Perhaps more importantly for a well-established company such as Jack Daniel’s is the goodwill that comes from taking a positive approach.

“Jack Daniel’s comes out of that situation looking excellent,” Mr. Tracey says. “It really reflects well on them. The average consumer can relate to a company that solves its problems that way instead of sabre rattling.”

ODDS

Allyson Whyte Nowak, a partner at Norton Rose Canada LLP’s Toronto offices, says that the reason so many copyright infringement cases are solved out of court is because businesses are driven by the need for certainty. Litigation can take a long time and the outcome is unknown.

“I think there are out-of-the-box ways to try to achieve the certainty you ultimately can’t guarantee with a court action,” she says.

BRINGING IN A LAWYER

A good lawyer will lay out all possible options so the company can take the best course of action, Mr. Tracey says. Protecting IP is important, and a cease-and-desist letter may be in order. But even if legal action is taken, the conversation can remain positive.

“I don’t see a problem with your initial correspondences being in a very friendly tone,” he says. “You always have the opportunity to play hardball if things go south.”

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    Andrew Rees
    - October 11, 2012 at 08:51:58

    @anonytron, based on your comments re. this article, you seem to know a little about server-side scripting languages. Also, based on your comments re. Shopify's clients achieving $1 billion in sales, you seem to know a little about operating a business. So, I guess my question is... why don't you follow Shopify's example and start a business of your own? Then your company can 'also' be a shining example of what great talent, great ideas and great execution can achieve here in Ottawa and your company can 'also' be an inspiration to others to follow in its footsteps. I hope you do... life is too short to waste hating those who have made something of themselves. I say go for it!

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    anonytron
    - October 10, 2012 at 10:23:45

    I find it strange that people believe Shopify when they insinuate the chinese 'copie'd their code and posted it on github. What a load of B.S. Unless china hacked into the shopify server to steal the code, it's not that easy for someone to just look at the shopify app screens and 'copycat' it... all the code runs on the server, and that is the difficult part to copy... the screens seen by the world or china can obviously be copied, but I hope shopify is not expecting to be able to prevent folks from copying their look/feel.. Also, shopify uses LOTS of code written by others, leveraging their efforts to build shopify and make money. Shopify should lock down their server if they are worried about someone copying their code.

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      David Underwood
      - October 10, 2012 at 11:13:29

      @anonytron: You're correct that no server-side code was directly stolen but a lot of our front-end assets were. Here's our site from June 2011: http://web.archive.org/web/20110615124044/http://www.shopify.com/ And here's ShopQi: https://www.shopqi.com/ There are more examples in this Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/q1a54/a_wild_chinese_clone_of_shopify_appears_shopify/

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